Creating Space, A Conversation about Anti-Racism with Dean Mitchell, Mario Robinson, Ashanti Branch, and Corbrae Smith

Creating Space, A Conversation about Anti-Racism with Dean Mitchell, Mario Robinson, Ashanti Branch, and Corbrae Smith

I know that talking about race and the on-going impact of racism is a challenging subject, to say the least. Given the recent events of police brutality in the United States, I wanted to do my part to create a space where we can discuss positive solutions and really understand what our black neighbors are experiencing.

Many of you are scared and unsure of what the future will bring and if anything will really change this time - I’m right there with you. But we can’t let despair cloud our vision, we need to face the problem head-on if we ever hope to see a brighter future. 

For this conversation, I invited returning guests Dean Mitchell and Mario Robinson as well as Ashanti Branch, and Corbrae Smith. If you find yourself wondering if you really need to listen to this episode - the answer is, yes! Too much energy has been spent on apathy and indifference, we need to turn it around and look for ways to help move the “Moral arc of the universe,” as Martin Luther King Jr. once called it, toward justice.

Really listen 

When was the last time someone took the time to really listen to you and your perspective on a topic? How did you know that they listened to you? Let’s face it, talking is a lot easier to do than listening. To listen effectively, you have to be actively engaged - you need to focus on what the person is saying, not just listen long enough to get your opinion in. 

Too many of our black fellow citizens feel like America isn’t listening to their pain and their suffering - it’s on us to put our hands over our mouths and actively listen to what they have to say. What will you do this week to move more toward the posture of actively listening to those raising their voices? 

You are going to mess up, that’s OK

If you are nervous about talking about race, that’s a good start! I don’t want you all to live in fear but we should be nervous about moving into a space where we don’t have all the answers. Be prepared, as you navigate your own education on what it means to be anti-racist, that mistakes will happen and that’s OK. Resist the urge to get defensive, remember, it’s best to move forward in a posture of humility and listening. No one expects you to get everything right 100% of the time, give yourself the permission to mess up and learn along the way! 

Constructive steps you can take 

How do we move forward both individually and collectively? Will this movement be any different than movements and touchpoint cultural moments in the past? We can’t expect black people to educate the rest of the population on what it will take to dismantle systems of oppression. If we start from a place of really listening to the struggle and pain of our black neighbors, then we can begin the process of righting societal wrongs one step at a time. 

On an individual scale, each person’s journey is going to look different. If you have the ability to encourage and financially support artists of color, I hope you take that step. I want to challenge you to use one thing that many people take for granted, your right to vote. Beyond national politics, in your local elections, you have the chance to choose sheriffs, mayors, school board members, and so many more. Don’t let this moment overwhelm you and dive you to inaction, pick one thing you can do to be part of the solution and do it!

Outline of this episode

  • [2:00] I welcome my guests, Dean Mitchell, Mario Robinson, Ashanti Branch, and Corbrae Smith. 

  • [4:00] Dean Mitchell introduces himself and shares his feelings about recent events. 

  • [7:00] Mario Robinson talks about his experience over the last week. 

  • [9:30] Ashanti Branch shares his thoughts on what’s going in the United States. 

  • [13:20] Corbrae Smith opens up about what the last week has meant for him. 

  • [19:20] Why the protests can bring hope. 

  • [22:00] How older generations are reacting to what happened to George Floyd. 

  • [31:40] Ashanti talks about the way forward with positive solutions. 

  • [38:00] Why you need to get over your fear and get involved. 

  • [46:30] We can’t forget our history if we want to move forward. 

  • [53:00] How young people are reacting, movement or trend? 

  • [57:00] Steps you can take to be part of the change. 

  • [1:13:00] What is the 100K Masks Challenge? 

This Episode Sponsored by:

On July 11th, COMM[UNITY] in the HD will be taking place at 14380 Amargosa Rd, Victorville, CA 92392.

Madisson, of Trekell, and her husband, Joseph, to help bring this event to life. The weekend events will start with a bonfire for the youth to express their feelings with the support of their peers.

The following day will consist of a panel discussion with local community members, a peaceful protest, and speakers to encourage how we can make a positive change in the world on a small and large level.

Trekell had a request from a supporter to be able to donate to the Comm[UNITY] in the HD event . We appreciate any donations, but please note this event has a small goal as we are going to make it happen regardless. We love you all!

Trekell stands in solidarity with the Black community and hope we can be a part of the change that has been needed for a long time. We hope to see you there.


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